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Extremely hierarchical company - too many middle managers, most of whom can't do the job

Software Engineer IV
Current Employee
Has worked at Boeing for less than 1 year
March 17, 2011
Aurora, Colorado
1.0
Doesn't RecommendNo CEO Opinion
Pros

The benefits are very good and used to be excellent. However, they may start deteriorating if the economy does not improve soon.

Cons

Promotions are based on your ability to become buddies with particular managers. Promotions are not based on skills or capabilities or how well you perform.

Company doesn't stand by what it says publicly; for example, it stresses education, but if you have or get advanced degrees, it goes nowhere, making your hard work a waste of time and energy.

There are no leaders among management. Just managers.

I have not seen any "cons" on this website that I don't agree with. All appear to be accurate, in my opinion.

Very little to non-existent on-the-job training. I have not had any in the time I have been with the company.

Managers appear to work 40-hour, stress-free work weeks while the workers are overworked and unappreciated.

Not much tasking to work in the area one was trained in, let alone help one grow or learn the latest standards.

Advice to Management

Read Iacocca's book "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?" and the study "Unskilled and Unaware of It..." by Justin Kruger and David Dunning. Take who you put in management positions more seriously. Stop putting your "yes-men" (ref: Iacocca's book) in management. Learn more about leadership, not just managing.

Create a flatter company. There are 6 levels of engineers but 3 levels of management and 5 levels of executives – 8 levels of folks that don't do the tasking to build the products. It appears to be more of a management company than an engineering company – maybe it no longer is, and I missed that memo.

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