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Software Engineer
Former Employee
Worked at Veeva Systems for 4 years
August 5, 2023
1.0
Doesn't RecommendPositive OutlookDoesn't Approve of CEO
Pros

The company is very stable, for now at least. It's work you can feel good about doing. You can pick up good skills here. Some employees are pretty cool people. There was a time when schedules could be flexible, but I don't think that's the case anymore. Health insurance isn't too bad. Despite my overall impression of working here, I genuinely believe this company is providing great services and has a solid and stable future. Or at least it will if it fixes how employees are treated.

Cons

TL;DR: If you're familiar with "Goofus and Gallant" from Highlights magazine, then just think of good companies as Gallant and Veeva as Goofus.

Low pay. Uses "our work is meaningful" mentality as a substitute for money, despite only the latter paying the bills.

Not a great place to work if you want to feel valued. Good management should support you in your career growth. I never felt that support here. It was always about what good I can do for the team/company. And I know that's obviously why we're there as employees, but it always felt like a one-sided relationship.

On related notes, internal transfers are extremely difficult, and pre-Veeva experience seems completely irrelevant for promotion consideration, even if you're down-leveled when hired.

A good company culture encourages time off because a good company knows healthy, happy, and recharged employees are the most productive. PTO requests at Veeva feel like you're breaking rules.

Not remote friendly. "Work anywhere" is simply untrue, unless Veeva has some different definition of "anywhere" that I don't know. I think they begrudgingly allowed more remote work during the pandemic and are now trying to figure out how to walk that all back.

PTO was never truly "unlimited" despite what many others are saying. But it was "flexible" and never had a hard limit of 15 days. Recently they walked back the vacation+sick limited to 15, now I think it's just vacation. And it's not tracked, so there's no selling it back or carrying it over to next year. I don't know if they're still calling it flexible, but I sure hope not.

Bad overworking culture with people working late into most evenings. It's only going to get worse with Vault CRM on the horizon.

Already tight development timelines made significantly worse thanks to unstable environments. You can spend an entire day or more dealing with environment issues only to find out it's something completely unrelated to your work and out of your control.

Uses "the market is bad" as an excuse to ignore employees' contributions and hard work. This place touts avoiding layoffs during rough times for engineers, but I believe they limit layoffs by letting natural attrition occur, thanks to an overall bad environment.

Also, too many people here justify Veeva's nonsense by saying other companies are worse. Cool, other companies are definitely worse, but other companies are also better. Why not at least try to be like the better companies? "Other companies are worse" and "the market is bad" are not good reasons to disregard your employees.

I think the problem is this place employs too many people who have never had another job, and I don't just mean interns and new grads. I mean people who were new grads here at one point and have stayed for years. This place also employs too many people who have only worked at significantly worse companies.

There are so many ways Veeva can be better, and too many people don't seem to care because they don't know anything else or they only know worse.

I was honestly so excited to work here and really wanted to make a lifetime career out of it. But everything here just got worse over time, until I eventually couldn't take it anymore.

Advice to Management

No advice, just... what the hell are you doing?

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