Rahul Pandey

The Staff Engineer promotion can feel impossible: it requires a level of initiative and ownership that engineers rarely demonstrate. However, the reward is immense: Staff Engineers are clear leaders in their org, often commanding [$500K+ in total compensation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inydj1VZ0y0) (TC).

This course is about breaking **beyond** the senior level as an individual contributor. We'll cover frameworks and tactics to optimize your promotion to Staff Engineer.

The most common reasons for a failed Staff Engineer promotion are:

- *"You don't have enough scope"*
- *"You're not working strategically enough"*
- *"You need to drive problems with more technical complexity"*

It's easy to hear this and feel stuck. *How can I translate this into action?*

The promotion beyond Senior Engineer (generally called Staff or Principal Engineer) is **not about working faster or longer** -- it's about behavior change that enables you to tackle more difficult problems.

By the end of the course, you will:

- 💡 Truly understand the **difference** between a senior engineer and a staff engineer (more than a career matrix)
- 🧠 Create **clear mental models** to develop L6 behavior
- 📃 Identify your **fundamental gaps** to staff
- 🗺️ **Chart a path** to Staff Engineer
- 🧐 Go through Staff Engineer **archetypes** to find your fit

### Who is this course for?

- You're a senior engineer in Big Tech looking to **get promoted, but struggling to find scope and influence**. e.g. Google L5, Amazon SDE 3
- You're an engineering manager or director and want to provide **concrete guidance for your engineers** to achieve career growth.
- You're an engineer who wants to validate your career direction by **learning how** **very senior engineers are evaluated** at larger companies.

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer: L5 To L6

Overview

Impact

Engineering Excellence

Direction

People

Staff Engineer Archetypes

Conclusion

Go Deeper: Follow Through

How This Course Works

Why Is The Staff Promotion So Hard?

At A Glance: Senior Vs. Staff

Structuring Your Growth

Finding The Right Team

You Need Tenure

Own The Goal

Create Scope

Build Technical Systems

Oncall

Define The Roadmap

Become The PM Right Hand

Bring Teams Together

Raise Leaders

Why Have Archetypes?

Specialist

Fixer

Product Hybrid

Code Machine

Generalist

Plot Your Growth Journey

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 22] - Go Deeper: Follow Through

Related courses:

- [Nail Your Promotion As A Software Engineer](https://www.jointaro.com/course/nail-your-promotion-as-a-software-engineer/)
- [Managing Up: Build Effective Relationships With Your Boss](https://www.jointaro.com/course/managing-up-build-effective-relationships-with-your-boss/)
- [Effective Communication For Engineers](https://www.jointaro.com/course/effective-communication-for-engineers/)
- [System Design Masterclass: Shipping Real Features To Production](https://www.jointaro.com/course/frontend-system-design-masterclass-building-playlists/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 1] - How This Course Works

If you work hard enough and play your cards right, you will eventually become a senior engineer. However, the same isn't true for staff, and this is why most engineers will never make it to the equivalent of a Staff Engineer at a top tech company like FAANG. Here are the core parts of the lesson:

- Your instructor [Rahul Pandey](https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-chiou/) walks you through his extensive 10+ year Silicon Valley background with rapid career advancement, ending up as a high-performing Staff Engineer making +$800k at Meta.
- You'll understand what it means to be a senior engineer vs. a staff engineer in the market, including the interview space.
- We walk you through the course objectives. By the end of the course, you will understand:
  - 💡 Truly understand the **difference** between a senior engineer and a staff engineer (more than a career matrix)

  - 🧠 Create **clear mental models** to develop L6 behavior

  - 📃 Identify your **fundamental gaps** to staff

  - 🗺️ **Chart a path** to Staff Engineer

  - 🧐 Go through Staff Engineer **archetypes** to find your fit

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 2] - Why Is The Staff Promotion So Hard?

Countless senior engineers hit a wall as they push for staff. This lesson teaches you:

- How the Staff Engineer role in and of itself is special by being a relatively new career invention
- The easiest way to tell if a Senior Engineer isn't ready to become a Staff Engineer
- Why the Staff Engineer promotion is fundamentally different from prior promotions
- Why many teams can't support an additional Staff Engineer promotion
- How you can be performing as a Staff Engineer and still not get the promotion

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 3] - At A Glance: Senior Vs. Staff

As a senior engineer, you have probably gotten generic guidance on how to get to staff, advice like *"Do more leadership"*. Let's rise above the meaningless engineering career matrix standards and provide something concrete. This lesson teaches you:

- How the dynamic evolves between an engineer and their manager as they grow from senior to staff
- The core behavioral difference between senior and staff engineers as they tackle problems
- The difference between senior and staff engineers with the projects they work on
- The difference between senior and staff engineers with their ownership reach
- The difference between senior and staff engineers with their organizational reach

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 4] - Structuring Your Growth

When going from senior to staff, you need to develop a *ton* of new skills across several difference categories. This lesson teaches you:

- A framework for organizing the improvements you need to make to grow to staff, based off of Meta's engineering performance axes
- The most important axis engineers need to grow in order to get to staff
- A healthy way to understand this course and your overall progression to staff in general

Take Jordan's course here: [\[Course\] Become The Go-To Expert As A Software Engineer](https://www.jointaro.com/course/become-the-go-to-expert-as-a-software-engineer/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 5] - Finding The Right Team

As a senior engineer, you can work hard and do everything right and still not have a real case to get promoted to staff engineer. This lesson teaches you:

- Why certain teams are far better for a staff engineer promotion than others
- What you need on a team from a seniority perspective to get to staff
- Why it's important for a team to have engineers more junior than you to grow to staff

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 6] - You Need Tenure

Software engineers like to give up when their team isn't going perfectly, often interviewing with another company entirely to jump ship. While this can work earlier in your career, it almost always stops as you're approaching staff. This lesson teaches you:

- Why job hopping to a staff uplevel at a top company is almost impossible
- Why you need to be in the same team for 2+ years in order to have a real case for staff
- The ingredients to develop the presence and impact of a staff engineer

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 7] - Own The Goal

As a senior engineer, you are used to getting large, impactful projects and delivering them well, even if the initial project is incredibly ambiguous. However, this isn't nearly enough to get to staff. This lesson teaches you:

- The difference between senior and staff engineers between what they own on their teams and how staff engineers have a fundamentally higher altitude with their perspective
- What it means to own impact at a staff level instead of a senior, explained with an in-depth example
- The core, high-level behavior shift you need to make from an ownership perspective to grow from senior to staff

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 8] - Create Scope

The best engineers don't need to be told what to do. Creating scope is a behavior that usually develops as an engineer hit senior, and it's sharply refined as they grow to staff. This lesson teaches you:

- Why staff engineers often write less code than their senior engineer counterparts
- The difference between senior and staff engineers when it comes to creating scope
- A trap senior engineers often fall into when trying to creating scope
- The more graceful way competent staff engineers create scope within their organizations

Watch Rahul's internal tool case study here: [\[Case Study\] Building A Meta Internal Tool To Empower An Entire Org: Staff Promotion Story](https://www.jointaro.com/lesson/qvp2quodqAEWSkN7sayt/case-study-building-a-meta-internal-tool-to-empower-an-entire-org-staff-promotion-story/?playlistId=EWIo3USNcsgXbCs5PS0h)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 9] - Build Technical Systems

As a staff engineer, it simply isn't enough to write standard product code. You need to write code that helps other engineers write code. This lesson teaches you:

- The mindset shift that staff engineers have made with regard to technical systems that junior to senior engineers haven't
- Why technical systems work is so impactful and deserving of staff engineer scope
- Exactly what it means to demonstrate staff level behavior with technical systems instead of senior level behavior, shown with an in-depth examples
- Common technical systems within a team that staff+ engineers are responsible for building and maintaining

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 10] - Oncall

"Oncall" is a term that strikes fear into the heart of engineers. However, it's crucial for engineers to embrace oncall as an honorable duty and a place of opportunity as they become more senior, especially as they progress to staff. This lesson teaches you:

- The differences between senior and staff engineers when it comes to their scope within oncall
- How senior and staff engineers respond differently to oncall issues

Watch Alex's oncall case study here: [\[Case Study\] Revamping Oncall For 20 Instagram Engineers - Senior to Staff Project](https://www.jointaro.com/lesson/esVxIGXYC5BdgxXUkO6H/case-study-revamping-oncall-for-20-instagram-engineers-senior-to-staff-project/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 11] - Define The Roadmap

All the way to senior, engineers are almost entirely given projects to work on. This dynamic flips as you grow from senior to staff. This lesson teaches you:

- The differences between senior and staff engineers when they participate in the team roadmapping process
- The skills you need to become a leading, staff-level influence in roadmapping

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 12] - Become The PM Right Hand

As a staff engineer, you need to have far more influence on the direction of the product, especially if you work on a product-facing team. This lesson teaches you:

- The difference in the depth of collaboration with the product manager between a senior engineer and a staff engineer
- Why staff engineers often need to partner closely with their product manager
- Which teams place more value on the engineer &lt;-&gt; product manager relationship
- What you should do to deepen your relationship between you and your product manager

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 13] - Bring Teams Together

Just because you're leading a team's worth of engineers doesn't mean that you're a staff engineer. This lesson teaches you:

- The difference between senior and staff engineers when it comes to the number of stakeholders on their projects
- The difference between senior and staff engineers when it comes to the depth of their XFN (cross-functional) collaboration
- How to align multiple teams, even those you aren't very familiar with

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 14] - Raise Leaders

As a senior engineer, you are expected to make the engineers around you better. As a staff engineer, this expectation is amplified by another degree. This lesson teaches you:

- The difference in the levels of engineers that senior and staff engineers mentor
- The difference in mentorship depth between senior and staff engineers
- How to raise senior engineers
- What it looks like to give staff engineer level mentorship compared to senior engineer mentorship, explained with an in-depth example

Dive deeper into mentorship with this case study: [\[Case Study\] Mentoring Junior SWEs \[E3\] to Senior \[E5\] In Just 2.5 Years At Meta](https://www.jointaro.com/lesson/EX9563YnxcJb62cCmetg/case-study-mentoring-junior-swes-e3-to-senior-e5-in-just-25-years-at-meta/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 15] - Why Have Archetypes?

Growing from junior (L3) to senior (L5) is largely foundational. This stops being the case when you get to staff. This lesson teaches you:

- What staff engineer archetypes are and how they help conceptualize the path to staff
- How to quickly and easily understand what each staff engineer archetype does
- A framework you can use to learn from the staff engineers in your team, particularly with what archetype they embody

Learn more about Talk & Observe: 

- Rahul's dedicated YouTube video: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV0nvusnqT4> 
- From the onboarding course: <https://www.jointaro.com/course/the-complete-onboarding-guide-for-software-engineers-succeeding-when-youre-new/the-talk-and-observe-framework/>

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 16] - Specialist

When you grow your junior to senior, it's best to [pick something, focus on it, and go deep](https://www.jointaro.com/lesson/wUl3hc2wr1ms493bd23b/this-is-how-software-engineers-should-initially-learn/?playlistId=iBKHYpkjd0BRWWLKQG2j). You can actually continue this trajectory all the way to staff. This lesson teaches you:

- What the specialist staff engineer archetype is
- What it takes for a technical domain to be worthy of staff scope
- Examples of staff-level specialist domains

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 17] - Fixer

While many software engineers see bugs as a source of frustration holding back their roadmap work, there is a certain group of staff engineers who view them the opposite way. This lesson teaches you:

- What the fixer staff engineer archetype is
- The "gap filler" style of fixer
- The "discoverer" style of fixer and why it's so impactful and well supported at Big Tech companies
- How to become a fixer staff engineer

Level up your debugging skills with this: [\[Masterclass\] How To Become A Debugging Master And Fix Issues Faster](https://www.jointaro.com/lesson/ioR6WzamAIUTpySLAr7o/masterclass-how-to-become-a-debugging-master-and-fix-issues-faster/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 18] - Product Hybrid

As a software engineer, you generally want to evolve past the code. There is 1 group of staff engineers who take that to the extreme. This lesson teaches you:

- What the product hybrid staff engineer archetype is
- The exact expectations of a product hybrid staff engineer
- How software engineers are uniquely positioned to hybridize as product managers
- Why most tech companies don't support the product hybrid archetype
- How to become a product hybrid staff engineer

Learn to sharpen your product sense with these resources: [\[Taro Top 10\] Product Management For Engineers](https://www.jointaro.com/playlist/66TyB60SRRmdnm0jmf55/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 19] - Code Machine

As a software engineer, one of your most powerful tools to land more impact is to write more code. While many engineers write less code as they grow to staff, there is 1 large exception. This lesson teaches you:

- What the code machine staff engineer archetype is
- Why the code machine archetype is quite rare and usually not supported
- How to become a code machine

As this lesson talks about, code machines have both a stunning degree of velocity and quality. Level up your code quality here: [\[Course\] Level Up Your Code Quality As A Software Engineer](https://www.jointaro.com/course/level-up-your-code-quality-as-a-software-engineer/)

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 20] - Generalist

An easy way to understand what a great staff engineer looks like is that they're a "Jack of all trades, master of all". This lesson teaches you:

- What the generalist staff "archetype" is
- The different types of skills staff generalists need to be good at
- When it makes sense to become a generalist
- How generalist staff engineers grow long-term

Grow From Senior To Staff Engineer [Part 21] - Plot Your Growth Journey

It can be overwhelming looking at all the skills you need to build to grow from senior to staff as both the breadth and depth of the skill development you need to do are massive. This lesson teaches you:

- How to tactically grow 1 step at a time from senior to staff and long-term
- What skills you should develop first to start (or continue) going down your senior to staff journey