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Rejections at the recruiter screen stage

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Senior Software Engineer at Mystery Company2 months ago

I recently finished Alex's great https://www.jointaro.com/course/ace-your-tech-interview-and-get-a-job-as-a-software-engineer/ course, and one of the key takeaways is debugging the job search process so as to make improvements going forward.

I had two recruiter screens recently at well known "AI companies", including OpenAI, and was rejected in both cases after those conversations (both recruiters reached out to me initially). Both recruiters cited a misalignment between my experience/the conversation and the org hiring needs.

In my past experience, and also reflected in the course, the recruiter screen has mostly been a formality to ensure you're not completely unpleasant or unqualified, so I was honestly shocked to not even move forward to the phone screen stage. Is this mainly a reflection of the job market, where companies can aggressively funnel out candidates before going into the "meat" of the interviews? Or could I be not presenting my best self in those conversations? I know it's hard to pinpoint a cause, especially without specific feedback, but would like to know others' thoughts.

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    Helpful Tarodactyl
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    a month ago

    I see lots of wonderful advice already being shared in this thread. As a new grad software engineer, I have experienced something similar.

    What I notice is that you have two major audiences during the recruiter screen: recruiter and hiring manager. I realize that when I spend more time elaborating on how my technical background makes me the perfect fit based on the job description (with specific examples from my experience), I pass more screens. Therefore, it is essential not only to make recruiter happy but also to convince a manager why he/she should interview you in the next round.

    Carefully study the job description to understand the type of skills they value the most. Make sure to emphasize that you possess these skills during the interview.

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      Senior Software Engineer [OP]
      Mystery Company
      a month ago

      I think that's good advice in general, but in this case the recruiters reached out to me, and not for a particular role (both companies were hiring across multiple teams). So, I couldn't really have tailored my responses to a specific job description. Perhaps I could've done more upfront research about other candidates' experiences.

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    Supportive Tarodactyl
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    a month ago

    I doubt it's a you problem (although of course it's good to be self-aware, there's always room for improvement in how one can communicate). I think the bar is extremely high at the moment, and that they are looking for someone who matches ALL of the requirements. I think being smart + adaptable + being able to learn very fast is no longer enough for AI labs. They have no issue attracting great talent, hence they can afford to be picky and look for someone who can start making impact on their first 1-2 weeks, versus first 90 days for other big tech (usually).

    I had a similar experience 2 months ago with OpenAI, except I was the one to cold apply. The recruiter reached out to me 2 weeks later and we scheduled a screen a week after their email. Although the screen went well, the recruiter told me after a couple days that the team has decided to move forward with other candidates who more closely align with the requirements.

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    Tech Lead @ Robinhood, Meta, Course Hero
    2 months ago

    It's really tough to know without having been in the room. I recommend going through the behavioral interview course regardless - Maybe you can reflect and find something you could have improved on: Master The Behavioral Interview As A Software Engineer

    What I will say is that the bar for a company like OpenAI is stupidly high. FAANG hires the top ~5% of engineers and then OpenAI hires the top ~5% of those people. Resumes are supposed to be short (1 page max for most engineers), so it's possible that your resume looked good to them on the surface, but after the recruiter dove in, they believed that you didn't have the depth of experience to perform at a company like OpenAI.

    Lastly, it could also be due to recruiter incompetence of which there is a lot of. Maybe they misread your resume really badly and thought you worked at a company you didn't work at or something (e.g. they thought you were ex-Anthropic). It's often hard to tell much when it comes to interviewing - Just gotta take as many shots on goal as you can, learn from your mistakes, and keep your head high.

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      Senior Software Engineer [OP]
      Mystery Company
      2 months ago

      Thanks for the reply. In both cases, the recruiter said the decision was made in consultation with HMs, so it's possible that my background looked good from a recruiter standpoint and then less so from an HM one. I can't do much about that in the immediate term, but I know I can work on my behavioral performance.

      Do you think the recruiter screen bar is higher now than it had been in the past (say pre-mid 2022)?

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      Tech Lead @ Robinhood, Meta, Course Hero
      2 months ago

      Oh yeah definitely. There's been a ton of layoffs recently, so the candidate pool is drowning in talent. Hiring companies have their pick of the litter right now.

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    Tech Lead/Manager at Meta, Pinterest, Kosei
    2 months ago

    Another consideration: how much time passed between the initial reach out for the role and when you did the recruiter screen. For hot jobs and hot companies, positions may get filled quickly.

    Or they could be rapidly changing their minds about the job requirements as they start talking to candidates.

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      Senior Software Engineer [OP]
      Mystery Company
      2 months ago

      That's a good point. In one case it was just a few days between outreach and the screen, and the other a week or two. In both cases, they got back to me the day after the screen.

      There's not a readily discernible answer here, so I'm not going to dwell on it.