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Sometimes a company can outgrow the individuals running it

Senior Software Engineer
Current Employee
Has worked at Workday for 9 years
May 1, 2024
Dublin, County Dublin
1.0
Doesn't RecommendNegative OutlookDoesn't Approve of CEO
Pros

Great benefits like stock, VHI, pension, life assurance, snack program, etc. These are the usual benefits associated with a multinational, but more.

However, due to policy updates in the pay structure and promotion criteria, the above is all changing.

Cons

Like with any multinational, there is no such thing as a perfect company, and it's generally a case of what one is willing to put up with. I have been working with Workday for close to 10 years, and without doubt, it is the most dysfunctional company I have worked for.

The reason for this is also easily identifiable: there is way too much middle management, or "good" engineers promoted to managers, which doesn't necessarily work in reality.

Here are the major problems in the here and now:

  1. Too many non-technical managers (that have read the scrum/agile handbook) in technical management positions.
  2. The new pay structure and promotion criteria introduced for engineers was composed by a person in a BU that likely is functioning as a proper software house should be, but doesn't reflect the reality of other BUs like AppDev in particular. It would be impossible to get promoted in some BUs.
  3. Getting promoted really depends on the engineers and managers you are dealing with on your teams. If you are proposing a good idea, it likely will go nowhere. This is a problem created by management and is the norm, in my opinion, throughout the company.
  4. Tech stack is awful in AppDev (Xpresso and Wats). It's just a web UI-based point-and-click tool to create pages and forms. That's it! You don't have to deal with debuggers, compilers, and actual programming languages. There are no data structures, algorithms, recursion, etc. No Unix/Linux or VMs and zero access to the DB. Management believes this to be the way forward.
  5. Mandatory 50% attendance in the office, supposedly we need to be in person in order to do technical design. One wonders how we navigated COVID. Also, "spelung" has been done virtually, so the messaging is conflicting around all this. Again, this is coming from the executive level.
  6. Projects that have been designed or implemented poorly can be worked on for 3-5 years and be cancelled a month or so prior to general release. This is a common theme within Workday and is a problem with management again, in my opinion, in that there isn't a fail-fast strategy in place for an ongoing project.

A company that is performing well can mask/absorb many problems. All the problems listed above are, in my opinion, created by management.

To quote Steve Jobs:

"In weak companies, politics wins. In strong companies, best ideas do."

Unfortunately, this is where Workday is at currently, in my opinion. One hopes all the above changes soon.

Advice to Management

Relax mandatory attendance to 50%, try to fill technical management positions with actual technical managers, and re-evaluate the new pay structure and promotion criteria recently introduced. This would be a good start.

Additional Ratings

Work/Life Balance
3.0
Culture and Values
2.0
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
3.0
Career Opportunities
1.0
Compensation and Benefits
4.0
Senior Management
1.0

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