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Switching teams after joining for 6 months - How to go about it?

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Entry-Level Software Engineer at Flatiron Health

Hey all, I'm a new grad Data Scientist and I've been working for my current employer for about 6 months now. It's a mid-sized company so I didn't get the chance to pick the team when I first joined. I realized not that long into the job that I don't want to stay on this team for the long term, and today I just heard the news about another team actively hiring for Data Scientists. But I'm not sure if I should pursue this opportunity for a few reasons:

  1. I've only been at this company for 6 months and haven't gone through a formal perf cycle yet. This means that I would be evaluated on a "case-by-case basis" and would need approval from the HRBP and my manager.
  2. They are hiring for one level above my current role, although someone on that team told me it's flexible.
  3. My current team is understaffed and is currently hiring as well, so there is a risk of my manager not approving this transfer. This also means I won't have enough time to prepare for the interview.
  4. This is not currently listed on the internal job board (although supposedly this position was only released externally today so the internal job board might have been updated yet)

Here are a few reasons why I want to transfer to the new team:

  1. Due to the scope of the work on my current team, I feel that I'm not learning as much as I'd like to. It's not very technical and relies heavily on specific business contexts. I'm more interested in improving my technical ability in writing code and building products over learning business contexts, at least for now.
  2. A lot of my current work involves writing ad-hoc SQL queries to support other functions. I don't find a lot of value in this kind of work and want to invest my time in building stuff from which I can learn new skills.
  3. I interned on the team I want to transfer to and really enjoyed it. I keep good relationships with many of the team members and am familiar with their work. Also, I genuinely think the work they are doing on that team is very interesting.
  4. I don't see a clear way of progression on my current team. My current team was only established two months before I joined due to a reorg. Every IC on my team is brand new and my manager is brand new to being a manager as well. There are no senior engineers to learn from and I can't see what senior engineer scope looks like on our team.
  5. Our team supports the sales team in client communications, which means we have very unpredictable workloads and deadlines. Sometimes I have to work very long hours and take on-call requests which can be very stressful.

I really want to switch to a new environment but I feel like my chances aren't great. It would be great if folks could share their thoughts on:

  1. Should I reach out to the prospective team's manager to express my interest in this role right now?
  2. Since manager approval is required before starting the interview process, it's possible that I would have to stay on my current team with my manager knowing I want to transfer out. I think it is a situation I want to avoid but also don't want to miss the opportunity because of this.
  3. In general, what would be a good approach to this? And is there any specific advice?

Thanks in advance!

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Posted a year ago
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How to Navigate through Expectation issues with your Manager?

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Anonymous User at Taro Community

I am a SDE II and joined my new team few months ago.

Recently my manager is leading me on a project he describes as exciting and transformative, and we started with a Spike, which means details to implement are planning in progress. It has been very challenging for me throughout this process because the approach for next steps is always changing and it looks like we frequently went out of sync. I pushed a major PR yesterday after over a month of work, and we had another 1:1 to discuss next steps, in which I have to say there are many frustrating moments after my manager explained his plan and I still want him to clarify more. "It's something small and straightforward. You know I can do this very quick, but you need to learn"(I know it could be but I have to have good understanding before I can start). "Then what's you solution?"(I don't know what the problem is, how am I going to have solution?" "I can't show you everything" (I am not asking for everything, but there should be better way to explain this) Sometimes there was long pause and dead silence, and I can feel he's getting disappointed and annoyed.

I think there are expectation issues going on between us. I feel like in our conversations, the gap between what's required to understand him now and next is always too big, there is lots of info thrown at me at once, even though some of them are not even close to work on, which overwhelmed me a lot. But he thinks I should be capable of handling all it takes to fill in the gaps of understanding, when his explanation is very high level.

I was confident that I did ask for clarification when I need to (I asked for help when I have to as it's too confusing to work on), but my manager's reaction make me feel I am not up to bar and I should find my own way to resolve my questions. For now, I will just go through the notes over and over again and hopefully come up with something. But how should we work together going forward? I feel like our trust is in danger.

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Posted 2 years ago
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