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What is the Rotational Software Engineer Program at Meta?

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Senior Software Engineer at Taro Community6 months ago

What is the Rotational Software Engineer Program?

How is it different from a regular SWE role?

Is it like being a contractor hired through a staffing company?

Are there levels to it (E4/E5, etc) or is it just one level?

Is there a good chance to become a fulltime employee afterwards and is this a good way to join Meta?

Is it a decent career move to join such a program if you are already a senior in another company or will you be considered a noob if you join a role like this?

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    Tech Lead @ Robinhood, Meta, Course Hero
    6 months ago

    I have actually worked alongside rotational SWEs at Meta, so I can go through how the program works. Unfortunately, I didn't know any of them too closely so I can't give any details on specifics like comp. Anyways, here's a bunch of details:

    • As a rotational engineer, you rotate across 2 different teams across 2 halves. Given that a half is 6 months, this makes the program 1 year long. You're effectively on loan.
    • The expectation is that after the 2 rotations, you are functioning at an E4 level. If you are and the team you're currently on likes you, you will get hired as a proper full-time E4 engineer. If these conditions aren't met, you are let go.
    • Rotational engineers are between E3 and E4 in terms of skill level. The role is meant for engineers who have potential but don't meet Meta's very high engineering bar, usually because they have never worked at a FAANG-level company before.
      • I worked with a rotational engineer who had almost 10 years of experience! They were a senior engineer/tech lead at their prior company, but the bar there must have been really low (as it is in many non-FAANG tech companies). They were a nice person who was clearly trying but was severely lacking in fundamentals like code quality and communication. I could see why they were hired as a rotational engineer.
      • Meta has a hard cut-off for E3 hiring. I think if you have >4 YOE (it might be 3), you can't be hired as E3 anymore.
    • Rotational engineers are sort of like contractors in that they're not proper FTE and are frankly treated as 2nd class citizens. They don't count towards headcount allocation for teams, so engineering managers use rotational engineers to fill small gaps here and there. They are usually not given good scope.

    The problem with being a rotational engineer is that you can't build up good relationships as you rotate after 6 months. Being a "Meets All Expectations" E4 isn't trivial in this economy either: Meta is cranking up stack rank and PIP percentages to fire more engineers. I have worked with a lot of senior engineers who probably couldn't survive as an E4 in this market.

    What I will say though is that despite all the shortcomings, Meta is still Meta. You'll learn a lot as a rotational engineer (especially in code review), and there's a clear path towards a proper FTE offer. With Taro on your side, you would have a better chance than most. If you can't get into Meta as an E4/E5, I think it's worth giving the program a shot.

    Meta E4 offers can get pretty high too - I have seen $325k TC in some cases, though I imagine a rotational engineer offer would be bottom of band, not top. Still, even something like $250k would be higher pay than most senior engineers. Meta is also extremely generous with high performers. A "Greatly Exceeds Expectations" rating could increase an E4's comp by $35k - $50k. So even if you get in as bottom of band, you can work your way up.

    Interesting side note: There is a rotational PM program at Meta as well but they get 3 halves.

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    Tech Lead/Manager at Meta, Pinterest, Kosei
    5 months ago

    Alex gave a great answer, I just wanted to provide an opinion on your last question:

    Is it a decent career move to join such a program if you are already a senior in another company or will you be considered a noob if you join a role like this?

    Worry much less about the title, and worry much more about (1) what opportunities the job creates for you and (2) your compensation.

    For example, some banks will give out the Vice President title like candy, with a non-trivial % of the engineering team called VP 😅 However, there are some mid-level engineers in FAANG who get paid more.

    So in that case, I'd forget the title (it's fake anyway) and take the FAANG job. Compensation is a proxy for importance to the company, so take the job where you get paid more and the company will likely invest in you more.

    So, short answer, YES! Rotational eng is a great program if you use it as your entry point into Facebook.

    Some great thoughts here: How should I think about levels when it comes to evaluating jobs and in my career overall?

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