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What is it like working on ads teams?

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Senior Software Engineer at Redfin8 months ago

I'm considering joining a new ads org, and I was wondering what working in ads was like overall since I've never worked in ads before.

A more specific question: There's a lot of competition in the online ads space nowadays - Will that make ads orgs more prone to layoffs as they find trouble gaining traction in this crowded market?



  • Alex Chiou
    Robinhood, Meta, Course Hero, PayPal
    8 months ago

    I worked on ads at Meta, so I'll share my experience here. Some of this is specific to Meta, but I do think there's some common themes here:

    • There's more non-eng complexity - This is due to there being an entirely new party: Businesses who buy the ads. So you still need to care about the end-user since they see the ad, and now you have this other, much more important party (the businesses giving you $$$ to run ads). This can lead to more roadblocks shipping projects as you need to make more parties happy.
    • Stress is higher - It's much worse having a bad experience for a paying enterprise customer vs. a free user who uses the app/website. This means that issues are treated with higher urgency. Back-end oncalls for ads are some of the most stressful oncalls out there (I worked on mobile luckily, so it wasn't too bad). Zooming out though, I worked for Meta so ads is way higher-priority (literally ~97% of company revenue), so if you're joining a newer ads org, I imagine it won't be as bad since ads won't be as big a portion of the overall company pie.
    • Figuring out impact is more straightforward - The success metric for ads is obvious: Revenue. When we were scoping out projects on my ads team and then talking about them in performance review, it was pretty easy to see where you stood as you could do math to figure out how much new revenue you brought in. I feel like this makes paths to senior/staff/beyond clearer as the success criteria is so obvious: Bring in more $$$.

    In terms of layoffs, I understand the point about competition, but I feel like this is true for a lot of orgs as tech companies are copying each other all the time. I feel like the average ads org is more insulated from lay-offs as they directly bring in revenue. Any sizable tech company will have tons of teams working on features without as much traction which don't bring in revenue directly - Those orgs will probably be cut first before ads.

  • Senior Software Engineer
    Senior Software Engineer [OP]
    8 months ago

    How can you help your team to build an exemplary architecture for ad teams? Or what are the design challenges and how can you step in as a senior engineer and solve these complex issues especially when your team is new?

  • Alex Chiou
    Robinhood, Meta, Course Hero, PayPal
    7 months ago

    Good questions, but they're tricky as every ads team will be different. If I were to pick something, it would be to always have the advertiser at the front of your mind. The advertiser is the most important user in the ads equation, so you want to make sure you have the infra necessary to keep them happy. Here's some examples:

    1. Great analytics so they can see how they're doing
    2. An ultra-fast and smooth pipeline for them to report bugs
    3. Clean tooling to allow them to "preview" how the ad will appear to the end-user before they launch their campaign

    The bar for all the good software traits (robustness, reliability, scale, etc) is much higher with enterprise software, which is what ads effectively are. With consumer software (e.g. the features for "regular" everyday users in Meta apps), you can cut corners and ship a lot of things fast with rough edges - You can't really do that with ads tech. Make sure you're always fighting for quality when doing ads product launches; this is very much inline with what it takes to grow to a senior+ engineer anyways.